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Same Co., New Job


I applied for a new position at my company.  This new postion is a pay grade level above my current position.  The hiring manager seems very excited by my interest and I had a promising initial interview.  When I started with this company last year, I started at a level 9.  In January they changed my title and moved me to a level 8....it came with a disappointing 2% raise.  Now, I am up for a level 7 job with a VP title.

Since I think I got screwed between levels 9 to 8...I don't know what  to expect for the transition from 8 to 7 (VP).  I think our HR policy has a max of 15% between levels but, obviously no minimum.  I really feel even with a 15% raise, it would not be enough for the position.   Are my expectations unreasonable? Any advice would be helpful and appreciated.

I think a more realistic expectation would be in the 10% to 15% range.  If the increase proposed is less than that, you can politely ask if the percentage is negotiable, BUT I also think you have to be prepared to state WHY the higher percentage is justified - and it can't be because you think your last increase was too low - the 2% increase may have been a reflection of somebody's estimate of how much was justified.  I think you build you case now on what you can bring to the table, not on trying to make up what you perceive to be "lost ground."  Make sense?

Paul W. Barada

The Negotiation Expert

Two things...

It sounds like you work for a fairly large company since they have pay grades. I would think they have policies and salary bands in place already. You should inquire as to what the salary band is for the new position. This will also tell you how much more money you may expect in that position in the future.

However, I would also look outside the company and see what the same or similar position pay and see how they compare to what you may be offered. You really can't walk in there with a number in mind thinking it is the right number unless you have the confidence that you could turn around, walk out the door and get that salary elsewhere. Maybe the company won't offer what you want, but if you knew that what they were offering was the market value of your job, it may sit better with you.

Chet makes a great point.  You need to KNOW what the market outside your company compensates for the same positions.  Carefull of the searches that are inflated.  Then you need to decide if you are willing to decline the opportunity based on the increased responsibilities vs minimal $ increase.  

  If you were legitimately shorted on your past raise and it's holding you back from HR being able to offer you a fair compensation for the new position consider correcting the old to allow for the proper increase for the new.  Keep in mind you should have the ammunition to justify your stand.  Otherwise you may get blown out of the water.

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