what to do! ahh!Alright, here's my problem. I'm an aircraft electrician with military experience. My gf lives in vegas and I have planned to move there after this school term, finals are right now, I go to Oregon State. Last week I accepted a job working at Nellis AFB in vegas with Lear Siegler. The pay is 23.50 hr. and a relocation pay of 3,200. I will be working on the same jets that i worked on in the Air Force, even the same building. My girlfriend works at the same building as well. I am so excited but...the problem is today Boeing just offered me a job working at the same place for 20.00 hr plus an extra 140.00 per day for per diem. The boeing job starts august first. It would make sense to take the boeing job, i mean, exactly the same job but for 140 more a day, and that includes every day of the week. Should I still relocate and start next week with Lear and just quit later and work for Boeing? I've gotta give Boening the yes or no by the end of the week. It feels wrong to get paid by Lear to move down there and then quit a month later. But I'm also moving there this weekend and don't wanna be out of work for a month and a half. What should I do? Ditch the Boeing job and count my blessings with Lear, or quit Lear and be unemployed till August 1st? Any good advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! -so confused i can't study! Mike It is totally possible that somewhere in your paperwork or in the employee handbook it says that you will owe Lear that relocation money back if you don't stay a minimum amount of time (year or two). If you want the Boeing job, don't move to Vegas and try to screw Lear. Remember, you're in a niche industry, you might want to work for Lear later on. That won't happen if you quit after a couple weeks or months. So, get your girlfriend on the phone, discuss it with her and pick one, then apologize all over yourself to the other and don't try to play games. Make it quick. Good luck! Tess Mike, are you considering that the Boeing job is a contract one (I assume, since you would not be getting per diem on a direct position), and the Lear is a direct one? Have you factored in the benefits? Even so, I know the $140 per diem is hard to ignore, but what happens when the contract is over? Will you be able to line up work again right away? I know the routine; my DH worked contract (once, for Boeing) for years, and the uncertainty of being between assignments, the lack of benefits, and mostly, the lack of career growth, take their toll. If you don't mind the above issues, then take the money & run. But if you prefer a steady, long-haul job with possible growth potential and, probably, better benefits, think hard about not accepting the other offer. $3200 location help these days is pretty darned good, and goes a ways in offsetting the per diem. Good luck! I tend to agree with Anne Marie on this one. The "per diem" is a substantial amount of money, but I'll bet we're talking contract employment and not a full-time job with benefits. If I were in your position, I'd be tempted to take the Lear job because it will include benefits, which usually amount to anywhere form 25% to 35% of your annual salary. If you're trading anything, you're trading some short-term cash for long term security - and that's a pretty good deal moving down the road. Make sense? Paul W. Barada The Negotiation Expert Oh, and even if you get benefits through the contract agency, they will cost more and offer less coverage than the direct job. Of course, you will still be "ahead" cash wise with the other job, but contract work can present big problems down the road of one's career. And I'm speaking from experience. It took us a long time to finally give up the short-term cash of contracting for the long-term potential of a job with a growing company, but my husband is at a point now where he will be doing better going the direct route than the contract one. Yeah, there was some short-term pain, but it's paying off, in many, many ways. Hope this helps!
Man, very good points here. The Boeing job is a contract position, and i'm uncertain about the chance to relocate smoothly afterwards. The Boeing job is only solid till april, and the Lear job has benefits, and i'm a direct employee. After hearing the opinions above, i'm tempted to just keep the lear position. I thiink I'll call and ask what the chances of boeing finding me another contract job are after april. Unless they say they can keep work for me, I'll probably stay with Lear. In part i feel like an idiot for turning down all the money the per diem has to offer. Thanks for the help.
But keep in mind that the "per diem" is intended to offset the cost of you paying for your own health coverage and other benefits that would otherwise by provided if you were a full-time employee. In addition, even if they tell you that the prospects are good for another contract job next April, there's no guarantee that circumstances won't change between now and then and a good prospect could become a non-existent prospect. Paul W. Barada The Negotiation Expert | |
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