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Hello,

I applied to a company directly for an underwriting job but now it is a management position.
I had 2 phone interviews and flew out to the company for a formal inperson interview. They now want to fly me out again for the final interview. (All flight and accomodations have been paid upfront my the company).

My last relocation for a job 4 months ago was all negotiated by a recruiter, this time I am on my own. These are my questions:

1) How do I negotiate the appropriate salary for a management position via life underwriting?

2) How do you negotiate relocation package? (I do not have the money to pay for my relocation again to Philadelphia as well as the cost of $4000 to break my 12 month lease) Can this be negotiated into the contract?

3) Can I negotiate a lower salary now and then after 6 months look at my performance for an increase? (Reason for lower salary, position was first presented as an underwriting job now it is a management position)

4) Can you put a time period in a contract, i.e....will be employed for one year then performance to be reviewed? My last relocation and job, I was let go after 2 months, I don't want to relocate from MN to PA without something in writing.

I know I haven't been offered the job, but I want to do my homework and be prepared if that time comes. In addition, I have two more inperson interviews with other companies and these questions will still need to be addressed.

Some of my questions may sound silly or unprofessional and I don't mean them to be.
Your guidance and support is greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

1) Well, to start with, there's not much to negotiate until a salary offer is made.  Normally, it makes no sense to switch jobs for a salary that's not at least 10% to 15% more than you're earning now - so you can use that 10%-15% guideline as a measuring stick for any offers you receive.  I think you also have to decide in your own mind what salary would induce you to make this move - if it's at least 10% more and you'd otherwise be happy to take this job, assuming it's offered to you, take the job.  But you have to decide what level of income you anticipate and would incentivize you to make the move.  If the offer is less than 10% more than you're earning now, start by politely asking if the offer is negotiable and see what they say.  It it's not, you may have to decline their offer and stay put.  If it is negotiable and you're asked what salary you have in mind, you need to counter with a range that's at least 10% to 15% more than you're earning now.

2) The way to start this exercise, assuming we've gotten past the salary issue, is to ask them what's included in their relocation package and see what they say.  If it's not inclusive enough, then it will be up to you to make the point that you want to take the job, assuming you do, but that you can't afford to break an existing lease without some assistance.  You mention "contract" here.  Why do you believe you're going to be offered an "employment contract" rather than just a "job?"

3) Keeping in mind the 10% to 15% guideline, let's suppose they offer you 10% more and the offer's not negotiable.  That's the point at which, assuming you want the job, to ask for a performance and salary review 6 months from now.  That should give you plenty of time to demonstrate what you can accomplish which, hopefully, will justify an increase in compensation.

4) I think you have to wait and see what's offered.  If you're offered a job and not a real "employment contract," there will be no guarantees that you'll have a job 6 months from now, but the best safeguard against that it to do a bang-up job so that they'll want to keep you.  If they're talking about an "employment contract" I don't think there's any hard and fast rule about the average length, but I'd anticipate at least a 12 month contract - IF that's what they're talking about.  If they're not, I doubt that you can insist on one if that's the way they do things.  You can ask that the terms of the "offer" be put in writing but, again, if that's not the way they do things, they probably aren't going to make an exception for you.  Keep in mind, however, that even if they do put the offer in writing, that doesn't mean your status has changed or that you can't be fired - or quit, for that matter - the next day.  An offer letter is no more binding on you than it is on them, it's just putting the salary compensation in writing, which doesn't make it legally binding on either party - unlike an "employment contract."

Paul W. Barada

The Negotiation Expert

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