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Need advice so depressed


After being unemployed for many months last year and running out of unemployment pay, I finally landed an analyst job...one which I thought had lots of potential and security.   I went through their training program, worked overtime and through my lunch hour, gave 200% of my energy to it, and after three months they fired me because they claim that I was inable to perform the job.  I was devastated.

Honestly, I think my boss had it in for me from day one.  Don't know why....I am a nice, kind person.  She clearly lied to HR about my performance.  She was spoke very condescending to me, sometimes downright insulting to me.  Any time I asked a question she would interrupt me as soon as I opened my mouth.  She often barked orders at me.  The words "please and thank you" were not in her vocabulary.  She was also rude to our assistant on the team.   She is one of those power-hungry, subjugating bosses, and I found out after I started the job that the position had a very high turnover rate.  Gee, I wonder why.   Despite all this, I decided that I would let it all roll off my shoulders, put up with it and do the best that I could because I could not afford to lose this job.

Now I am unemployed again, and ineligible for unemployment benefits.  Due to progressive arthritis, I really can't take a job where I have to stand on my feet all day, like something in retail.  But at this point, I just want ANY job so I don't end up homeless.  Already, many employers that I have applied to for admin type work, which I would think would be easy for me to get, have responded that I am overqualified.  Perhaps they sense that I would not view the job as something for the long-term and would leave when I found something that I am better qualified to do.  I don't know.

But at this point I am afraid that I am being passed up because of the short duration of this last job and having been unemployed so long before that.  What can I do?  My network....the people who know I am smart and capable.....seems to be dried up.  I have great references and recommendation letters, but it all doesn't do me any good if I can't even get company to consider responding to me so I can present the information to them.

Any ideas?  THANKS!

I am in the same boat, except I did lose my home.  I know firsthand about the physical limitations that come with severe arthritis.  I worked at walmart for three days (I am an attorney!) on day four, I could not stand upright.  Since arthritis and degenerative bone & disc disease are not visible, others, who cannot see or understand my physical limitations and pain assume I am lazy or think I am too good for lower level/paying jobs.  I have applied for a plethora of "menial" jobs; they won't hire me.  Many assume I will leave when something better comes along, and frankly, they are correct.

I have also worked with a**holes like those you describe.  Many people seem to have a need to put others down and humiliate them.  My former counselor told me that people like that often choose someone to be their target.  The stress of enduring that sort of treatment directly exacerbates the arthritis.  My "network" of friends and contacts has proven to be of little use also.  (except for LVal, my angel) I have concluded that rather than call in a favor to help me get a job, they are all saving it for themselves or someone else.  Like the song says, "nobody knows you when you're down and out."

I know I haven't helped, but will post any ideas that come to mind.  Where are you located and/or seeking employment?  Best of luck.

I meant to respond to your message when it first appeared.

I never could understand either why people will suddenly and unexpectedly tell you that you are not doing a good job and will not provide any details that could be useful, helpful, and may encourage you to think where you may have fallen short and what you can do to avoid repeating mistakes at the next job.  But you tell us that this person was not very nice, so I guess that is the answer in your case.  Everything you say about her is absolutely true, I am sure.  She has misused her authority and, no doubt, she has fired many employees or they quit first.  A decent manager or boss always gives the departing employee some reasons why she did not measure up.  Sometimes she even provides proof, for example, a sloppy document full of typos and misspelled words and bad grammar, actual written complaints of clients or employees who were adversely affected by the employee's lack of commitment to doing a good job, etc.

Here's what I would say if I was a manager and had to fire an employee after the probationary period was up:

"I am sorry but things did not work out.  I appreciate all the effort you made and the time it took for you to get up to speed.  I know you went through our training program and did your best; however, after observing you for the past three months I realized that you are not cut out for this type of work in this company - not necessarily someplace else.  I feel bad about this but this is the purpose of a probationary period.  We look at new hires carefully and then we make a decision.  New hires do the same and they make a decision to either leave or continue working here.

Thanks for everything you did.  It's not easy trying to do several things at once, learning new things, getting accustomed to the new working environment, and getting along with everybody while trying to meet our very rigid and high standards.  I wish you a lot of luck in the future, and I know you will find and keep the right opportunity."

Okay!  The above speech is almost as long as the Gettysburg Address, but if more employers and bosses would take the time to deliver this kind of message to people who are fired or did not pass the probationary period, everyone would benefit immensely.  I do not know whether some managers are stupid or don't care or they are sadists or simply people who never went to "charm school" and do not know how to relate to others in any situations.  That remains a mystery to me but so many bosses and employees too, for that matter, come to work to act out with their own hidden agendas and play sick games as D&C would say.  This gets worse and worse all the time!   Perhaps this terrible behavior is a reflection of all the misery many of us feel about the world in general with all its serious problems including war, unemployment, health care crises, you name it!

You went through a three-month probationary period and perhaps this poor excuse for a boss simply felt you did not fit in but preferred to make you think you did a lousy job.  She could very well be a sadist who actually enjoyed watching your reaction to this news.  She could even be a bully and for that reason, you're lucky to be finished at that place.  In any case, she did not give a damn about your feelings (she did not see you as a person but a "business decision" that did not measure up) and could have even fired you because a friend or a family member needed that job or knew someone who needs to work.  Or she simply did not like you.  Try not to dwell on this and look to the present!

My only advice is to start the search again and I hope that other people will tell you specifically what you can say when questioned about this latest job at your first interview.  The right words are not easy to find but once you figure that out, you will feel much better.  With someone's help, you can write a little script and practice.  Of course, you will tailor the script to your personality.  You have to be truthful and in this day and age, your situation is very common.  Jobs are hard to find, and they are hard to keep!

Don't cave in to despair and depression if you can help it.  You can do this by keeping busy and devoting as much time to a job search as you can.

 

Bunzo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is very bad Karma!

Just be careful that your "depression" remains situational.

If it does not; you may inherit another big time problem.

Best of luck.

I would suggest not put that company on your resume If it was a few months and if before that you were unemployed anyway. How far back on your experience do you go back?

It is not necessary to go back 10 years. I would only put the last 5 years in detail and then list only the company names and dates under "Previous employers". If they want to ask you about these they will do so in the interview. Also I would add "contract" or "temporary" if you worked on a temp job.

 When you do get an interview you might want to have something rehearsed in your mind to say about your years of experience such as "I am looking for something long term where I can grow with the company".

On a personal note, something that helps me when I am faced with a hard situation is to remember "our circumstances do not determine who we are and what our life is about". I hang on to the truth of having faith in our creator who we never know what he is working in the background for you. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, you will gain more character and be able to help someone in the future who is going through the same thing. I have gone through this many times getting laid off from jobs and he found something better for me each time.

God bless,

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THE LORD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES.   

You found your own jobs, Recruitertex!

 

Bunzo

Bunzo-Z,

I have no desire to get into a debate with you regarding my religious beliefs. I dont have to defend them to anyone. My message was to this post not you.

You should try and encourage someone who is depressed not discourage. Im sure she knows how to help herself she has found jobs in the past and she will find them again.

That's exactly what I did in my own way and in my own style according to my beliefs; read my post to her!

I am sorry if I offended you!

 

Bunzo

Gee Bunzo,

That hurts my eyes!  You've forced me to turn down the brightness on my monitor.
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