No Drug testing for college staff
.Just found out....that apparently college professors/teachers, don't require drug tests during the hiring process nor it's done DURING their course of their job. So, is there any other jobs out there that make you take a pee test? It's kind of a shame actually. Whether a college professor smokes a joint over the weekend, or not, has no bearing on whether that professor can effectively teach. I hate the fact that so many jobs require one to take a pee test when there is nothing about the job that is dangerous (or "tempting" in terms of theft from the company). I've learned that many companies drug test, not because they want to keep people who smoke pot from working, but because their insurance companies are forcing them to do so. My job, as an adult education instructor, did not require me to take a drug test. I hope that never changes. (I would refuse, just on principle. Of course, that might mean I'd be out of a job, too.) This varies greatly by what state you're in. In all states however, "safety sensitive" jobs can require on the job random drug testing. The definition of safety sensitive isn't just the guy driving a tanker truck either. It can often be routine office workers. If you don't want to be subject to random drug testing, then don't apply for jobs where they do it. That simple. Tess [...] apparently college professors/teachers, don't require drug tests during the hiring process nor it's done DURING their course of their job. Ha ha ha ha ha. 1. If college professors had to take (and pass) pee tests, there would be virtually none left. 2. As a subsequent poster pointed out, smoking on the weekends has no bearing on whether or not they can effectively impart knowledge. I have never taken an illegal drug in my life. I don't have my virginity, but I have that. But as a former professor, I would really resent being removed from my post for ANY non–merit-based reasons. Tess-ster (yes, the pun is deliberate)-- Contrary to the sort of pro-employer propaganda and drivel you usually post, the issue of avoiding random drug testing in the workplace, something that, in many if not most cases, is an outrageous infringement of workers' and applicants' most basic rights, is not as simple as asking those of us who oppose such abuse as simply not applying to employers that engage in it. You forget, most likely conveniently, that we still do have the right to seek legislation at federal, state, and/or local levels, as now indeed does exist in some places, that restricts and otherwise seeks to curb this widespread abuse of workers' and job applicants' most rights to privacy and due process. By the way, it is sooooooo interesting to consider how most employers relatively rarely, if ever, test employees and/or applicants for evidence that they have used (or abused) the most abused and debilitating drug of all in modern America--alcohol. Drug testing in the workplace seems far more a management fad, a way of pretending to be "good corporate citizens" by posing as pseudo-law-enforcement agencies, and, above all, "reminding 'em who's boss" than it does any real effort to address the real issues involved. This can be done in a way that does not infringe on employees' and applicants' rights to privacy, due process, and the like, Tess. For more information on this issue, take a look at what the American Civil Liberties Union has had to say about this subject at the links below: http://www.aclu.org/workplacerights/drugtesting/13394res19971231.html http://www.aclu.org/drugpolicy/testing/10717pub19990930.html Let us all know what you think after you take a look at the materials at the above links. (Yes, that most of all includes you, Tessie. A lot of us would love to know what you have to say in the face of well-researched and well-documented material that contradicts your dogmas.) Like polygraphs, another management fad that ultimately grew to epidemic proportions of abuse in employment settings, drug testing is heading for a major fall, not only through strong legislative regulation, but (justly) in public confidence and respect--as are employers that stubbornly continue to demand some sort of "right" to force workers to submit to it. I am proud to say that I've never taken a drug test for any reason related to employment (and, yes, I have been removed from consideration for jobs for daring to maintain my strong stance against unreasonable drug testing!) and have no intention of ever doing so. I urge all fellow working people in America, you included, Tess, to join people like me. Only when enough of us thus "just say no" can and will we force employers to end this abuse. lean a/k/a The Nemesis of Tess Hey Tess, I still haven't take my drug test, it's been five months now. I don't think they really care. I just got my annual review, it sounds like I walk on water! Did you see the story about the guy at the Johnson Space Center who shot his boss over his review? I work for the same company. I got my review about three days later, do you think that influenced my boss? ROFLOL It's an ill wind indeed, that blows nobody some good. People who look at the employee drug testing practices in the USA at corporations have found that testing is generally only done for low-level employees. For instance, say there's a grocery store chain that has a drug testing policy. The guy behind the deli counter, the cashier, and so on...they are tested. But are the regional managers, the VPs, or the like tested? No. Even though the decision-making abilities of these people are more likely to affect the company than a low-level associate. Drug testing often is used in quite an inequitable manner. The higher-ups are effectively exempt from submitting to pee into a cup, the risk of getting a false positive, the invasion into your health status, and the assumption of guilt before proven innocent. Even though the decision-making abilities of these people are more likely to affect the company than a low-level associate. But it's the lower-level associates who, if they screw something up, are more likely to bring on lawsuits (e.g. low-level employee doesn't wash hands and infects 300 ppl with E. coli, etc.) | |
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