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quit or get fired


My job at the IRS has not been working out.  (Which is really a completely different story)

My Manager asked me to consider submitting my resignation.

If i give my resignation i can not collect unemployment

If I do not give my resignation it could look much better to another employer. 

Quiting looks better than getting fired.  I've thought that a government job might be a very good thing.  I imagine that if i apply for a government position again they'd be able to check this quite easily.

Saying "i left the irs because it was not for me" actually sounds very reasonable.

Saying "i got fired from a government job" makes me sound really really bad.

Is it better to submit a letter of resignation or just get fired so i can collect?    (btw, i've only taken about 2 sick/vacation days in the past 9 months)

Given the fact that my position is looking as though it will end very soon, what shall i do now?

Anyone have any advice about how to leave a government job?

 

 

It is illegal to have you forced signed a resignation letter, when you wanted to collect unemployment.

Contact the dept of labor and find out the rules for collecting unemployment.  You should also ask them  if it's illegal for an employer to disclose information other than your start and end date.

 

 

"You should also ask them  if it's illegal for an employer to disclose information other than your start and end date." 

I have not heard that if an employer gives out any other information that it is illegal.  Many companies it is policy, so that they can be sued for slander or not telling the truth, which is illegal.  If you were charged with stealing, then it is allowed.  Many companies and agencies don't give reference, dates and maybe position.  HR only gives out this information, no supervisor or other company employed is allowed or they can be terminated.  So don't put supervisor name on application, refer to HR only..

What is the reason your boss has it out for you?  Did you disobey a manager?  Or perhaps did not listen to another manager.  I got fired for the latter, and I had accrued sick days well over 75  which I gave up.  People that I work with used theres each year instead of banking them.  Who was the Dummy?.   I was able to collect, but it still smarts 2 and a half years later.  Life is not fair I have learned, but you have to go on.

Before you do anything, think and be smart. and have a real good game plan so you are not left out in the cold.  

 

Work really hard 4 hours a day spend the other four looking for work. Plan to leave in two months.

I don't think leaving a government job would be any different from leaving a private company.  I totally empathize with you.  I am currently facing the same dilema--i.e., quit or get fired. 

...I don't think that any employer can disclose whether or not you got fired UNLESS you use someone at that job as a reference (in which case, find a colleauge who will be a solid reference for you); when a prospective company calls your past employers, the latter only verifies your start and end dates, position and salary.  However, be warned that there are ways for companies to ask about your character and performance.  I myself had been recruited by a guy who ended up asking someone at my current job about me.  This was all done without my permission and I was pissed.  The reference was good, but I never authorized it. 

I think that if you don't need the unemployment pay, go ahead and quit--but obviously, not before finding another job.  But if you don't have something better lined up, let them fire you because then you will get unemployment and still have some medical coverage.  Good luck

Thanks to everyone for your responses.

A little about me and my situation.

Let me tell you up front that i don't always learn things quickly.  I'm NOT fast.  And I'm OK with that.  I am persistent.  I work very hard.  Eventaully I get results.  I passed the tests needed for the CPA exam.  I am a CPA.  (you're probably now wondering why i'm posting on here.  Being a CPA, I should now be on easy street) 

I've never landed big accounts.  But i am very proud of some of the services which i've been able to provide for people. 

Anyway it's tax season.  However i decide to end it with the IRS I'll will soon be employed as a return preparer.  I'm friendly with a guy who'd love to have a little help right now.  This will be the third year in a row that i've contracted myself out to him-- having the same contractor job three years in a row looks good on the resume.

If i wanted to i could not show up at the irs and have plenty of work.  (just got a client back the other day as a matter of fact)

Bottom Line:

If i my resume shows that i'm a CPA who's worked for the same CPA firm for 3 years in a row do i need to worry about how potential employers view my stint with the IRS.

Right now i'm hot, as all preparers are.  But come May i'll be nothing special.  Nobody needs a 1040 prepped in May. 

Getting unemployment in May could be helpful-- big time.

You should resign.  You may still even be able to collect unemployment if you let them know you resigned because of stress being placed on you.   Resigning looks so much better than being fired.  Alot of companies will immediately take you out of consideration if they know you were fired.   A low key resignation allows you the option of possibly returning later down the road.  If that manager should one day be fired then you may be able to come back later.   Plus, government grading s a big factor.  If you were to work elsewhere with the governement you could possibly keep your grade and within your pay scale.  That's alot better than going to a private company and maybe having to start all over again.

You usually can't collect unemployment for stress.  I went out on depression, and could not collect..  Check you state unemployment  laws first with consulting an employment lawyer.  You need something stronger, like going on a paid short term disability and FMLA (only if you been there over 12 months) with a doctor's approval.  I did this instead, stalled the problem for more than 4 months. Then was able to get unemployment.
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